Ray McGovern & Susan Lindauer on O’Meara & Borjesson - 28 September 2022

GUEST 1 OVERVIEW: Ray McGovern is a 27-year veteran CIA analyst who served as Chief of the Soviet Foreign Policy Branch and preparer/briefer of the President’s Daily Brief. He is also co-founder of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS).

GUEST 2 OVERVIEW: On the heels of our coverage of the CIA's brand self-congratulatory new podcast, we're bringing on Susan Lindauer to talk about what it's like to be a CIA asset and to comment on what she heard CIA director Burns say about the organization.